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“I am going to maintain that there is no act at all that any man in the Old Testament time or the New ever had to perform in order to be saved. Salvation is received by faith, and faith is the only thing you can do without doing anything.”
Baptist preacher, Ben Bogard, arguing against baptism in the Hardeman-Bogard Debate, p. 93 (ponder the contradiction in his last sentence).
Weylan Deaver 9:53 am on May 31, 2011 Permalink |
That’s just one example of Bogard’s striking illogic. Here’s another from p. 97: “If you are baptized in order to become a child of God, you can’t be following Jesus Christ. Why? Because Jesus Christ was not baptized to make him the Son of God. He was already God’s Son, baptized that this fact might be ‘made manifest.’”
Ron 9:56 am on May 31, 2011 Permalink |
We need more occasions for there to be public discussions. Some may not feel comfortable engaging in this; others should not be engaged in this, but for those who are comfortable and charitable (but fierce), they should pursue these discussions, no matter the format.
Weylan Deaver 10:09 am on May 31, 2011 Permalink |
Yes, Ron, I’m a believer in rightly-conducted public religious debates. I was astonished to read Bogard saying his debate with Hardeman was the 227th of his career (p. 94). Assuming it’s not a typo, that’s two hundred and twenty-seven debates!
Ron 10:18 am on May 31, 2011 Permalink |
There was a time when conviction meant something! Of course, this is not to relegate the conviction of those who have not the stomach for public discussions, but, in my view, if they support the endeavor, they are engaged.
John Henson 10:53 am on May 31, 2011 Permalink |
Someone who wishes to circumvent the scriptures can’t make a logical argument.