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  • TFRStaff 4:26 pm on October 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Hugh’s News & Views (The Holy Spirit) 

    THE HOLY SPIRIT

    Quite possibly more confusion exists with reference to the Holy Spirit than any other Bible subject. The divine personality of the Holy Spirit is not recognized by many people, and how He works in the conviction and conversion of sinners and in the life of a Christian is often misunderstood. A single essay on the subject cannot answer all questions, but some basic truths may help clear the path to a greater understanding of the Holy Spirit and His work. (More …)

     
    • Beth 11:45 am on October 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      What I find fascinating is a study of the phrase “came upon” or “fell upon” in both Old Testament and New. Running those references clearly shows that the Holy Spirit did not remain on them. Some word translations need to be checked with the original Hebrew and Greek texts.

  • Eugene Adkins 7:07 am on August 19, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Inconsistencies concerning the conviction and correction of a sinner and the Holy Spirit 

    There are some in the religious world, and perhaps even several within the church herself, who consistently claim that the Holy Spirit convicts the hearts of sinners through means outside of the word of God. Although I believe that most are sincere in their claim, I also believe the majority of those who are sincere are also inconsistent with their belief.

    This inconsistency is seen when one person who has been convicted by the Holy Spirit via a “religious experience” attempts to inform another individual who has been convicted by the Holy Spirit via a differing “religious experience” resulting in a salvation, belief and testimony from a completely different process that their experience was wrong and then they attempt to use the word of God to prove it.

    Do you see the inconsistency?

    If conviction (salvation) for the sinner comes from a religious experience and not from the word of God alone, then what does it matter if one “religious experience” matches another? Who is to say that anyone’s “experience” is wrong whether we’re talking about Joseph Smith or Charles Russell or Ellen G. White or any TV preacher who calls on people to lay hands on the TV for their religious experience?

    Furthermore, the inconsistency of the position is revealed through the very attempt made at correcting the inconsistent “religious experience” by using the consistency of the word of God.

    If the word of God is going to be used as the guideline for correcting error, then the very word of God, by default, becomes the standard by which the conviction should have taken place to begin with. You cannot honestly say that a conviction can come by the Holy Spirit operating directly on someone outside of the word of God and then turn around and tell someone their experience of that “direct operation” was wrong because it does not align with what the Spirit teaches through the word – that’s inconsistent!

    The truth of the matter is that when it comes to the conviction and correction (that leads to salvation) of the Holy Spirit upon the heart of a sinner, the work of Spirit is accomplished through the consistent guidance of His word and not through the inconsistent “religious experiences” that vary and contradict each other and the word of God itself.

    But if your belief is that the direction operation of the Holy Spirit is indeed the mode of conviction and correction that God has chosen, then you would do well to stop saying that the “religious experiences” of others resulting from that direct operation is in error because if there is going to be no consistency then attempting to be consistent is very inconsistent within itself.

    “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.” Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Men and brethren, what shall we do?” Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” (Acts 2:36-38)

     
  • Eugene Adkins 7:14 am on June 19, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    If the Holy Spirit isn’t a person then how… 

    If the Holy Spirit isn’t a person (as some in the religious world contend) then how can you blaspheme him? Sure, the sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit can bring up several questions, but one question that it sure seems to put to bed is whether the Spirit is a person or a “force” that accomplishes the will of God.

    Keep that in mind the next time someone knocks on the door to talk to you about the Bible and God’s kingdom…I mean the New World Translation and the kingdom hall.

    Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.” (Matthew 12:31-32)

     
    • Randal 7:16 am on June 19, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Good point. That knocks that bad idea in the head, down with a single blow.

      • Eugene Adkins 7:20 am on June 19, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I came up with it while putting together some notes for an upcoming Sunday School series on the Spirit. Another teaching that it knocks out is whether or not Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same person. The sin itself shows that there is a difference between them as far as “person-hood” is concerned when it comes to those who hold to the “oneness” doctrine.

        Thanks for the amen.

  • Eugene Adkins 6:43 am on April 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Have You Used This Class Book? 

    For the third and fourth quarters of the adult class we’re going to go over the topics of the Holy Spirit and angels. For the most part I’m going to put together the materials for the class on angels but I’ve been looking for a decent (multi-aspect covering) class book on the Holy Spirit and I found one that’s published by Winkler Publications in their “Life Changing Studies with an Open Bible” series called, “The Holy Spirit – Questions Often Asked.

    My question is, has anyone used this particular class book before? And if you haven’t used it, is there another 13-week class book that you’re aware of?

     
    • James Craven 6:51 am on April 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      “The Work of the Holy Spirit in Redemption” by the late Franklin Camp

  • docmgphillips 11:51 am on September 28, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Holy Comforter 

    Do you trust the Bible to be true? Do you believe it is God’s Word? Do you believe that God cannot lie? (Titus 1:2) Then I have some good news for you.

    I would not even hazard a guess about you, but there are times that I find myself in need of comfort. No matter how close we might be to another human, there are simply times when I need more comfort that a mere human can supply. As I have said before, there have been times when I was to the point that I did not even know how to pray..to find the words I needed to talk with God. You know what? God has handled that. Let’s investigate.

    Jesus (another Who cannot lie) told us: And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you forever (John 14:16)…But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My Name, He shall teach you all things, (John 14:26)…But when the Comforter is come, Whom I shall send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth (John 15:26)…Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away; for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send Him unto you. (John 16:7).

    Jesus promised to send us a Holy Comforter. Jesus cannot lie. Therefore, we have received a Comforter. But how does that work? Romans 15:4 tells us that Whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning that we, through patience and the comfort of the Scriptures, might have hope. The Holy Spirit, our Comforter, has given us all Scripture (II Timothy 3:16-17) so that we might know the Will of God, so that we might know what God wants us to do and what will be the reward of our obedience. It is through the comfort of the Scriptures that we can be assured that God will never leave us alone (Hebrews 13:5). It is through the Scriptures that we learn of the steadfast love of God and His patience and long-suffering toward mankind. When we are in a situation where we cannot pray because of our distress, it is the Holy Spirit, our Comforter, that makes intercession for us with groanings that cannot be uttered, telling God the Father what it is that we need. (Romans 8:26) The Holy Spirit is our “comfort of Love (Philippians 2:1).” If you believe in God and in the truth of His Word, there cannot possibly be a greater comfort than to realize that He has sent the Holy Spirit to be our own personal Comforter. You are never alone, for the Holy Spirit, the Holy Comforter, is always there, just as are God and Jesus.

    Therefore, when you feel alone and forsaken, take heart. The Holy Spirit, that great Comforter, is always ready to lead you through the Scriptures. It is through Him that we can be comforted, knowing that God loves us and will never forsake us. All we need to do is to trust God and His Word, open the Bible and read what the Holy Comforter has inspired men to write down for us. After all, if the Scriptures are given by the inspiration of God (II Timothy 3:16-17) , and God has given us all things that pertain to life and godliness (II Peter 1:3), then the Scriptures, and the Holy Spirit, are the ultimate source of comfort in this life. I urge you to lay hold of that comfort in your life by studying your Bible

     
  • Ed Boggess 7:32 am on May 9, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Have you ever gone to your car and turned the key and nothing? No click, no starter engaging, nothing. The battery is dead. Have you ever noticed that it always happens when it is cold and nasty outside? Why doesn’t it play out when it is nice and warm. Not only that but it always happens when you want to go somewhere. It doesn’t happen when you have plenty of time, but when you are needed somewhere, expected somewhere, or intend to get somewhere. I believe the devil must be behind it. Turn the key and there is no power! But with the Lord, there is always power! Nice weather, cold outside, when you are in a hurry or with plenty of time. the Lord always provides power. Romans 15:13 “Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that you may abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.” This is Just-A-Minute with Ed Boggess

     
  • Eugene Adkins 6:38 am on March 22, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    A Wonderful Old Testament Passage About The Spirit of God 

    Much like the pre-incarnate Word, when it comes to the Spirit of God in the Old Testament you don’t always see Him mentioned but He’s always there. In fact, this is one of the key evidences that the preaching Levites of Nehemiah’s day used while encouraging a proper revival amongst the people of God. In the midst of a history sermon, while thanking God, they said:

    You also gave Your good Spirit to instruct them, and did not withhold Your manna from their mouth, and gave them water for their thirst.” (Nehemiah 9:20)

    Notice the order of God’s gifts to Israel’s ancestors. The word of God, bread and water! Reminds me of Matthew 4:4 – which again reminds us about another Old Testament passage. Three characteristics clearly stand out about the Spirit of God in this inspired sermon: 1) He’s good 2) He teaches and 3) He provides.

    The fact that God has always had a desire to do well towards His people and that He has made a way for us to clearly follow reveals the Spirit’s affections not only for order, but also for us! The gift of God is a gift giver. Although the avenue and nature of the Spirit’s gifts have changed throughout the millennia, the purpose, the desire, the result and the source has remained a constant. Heavenly goodness and a heavenly education is what God’s people were given in the past, and it is what God still gives to His people today. For these reasons alone, Nehemiah 9:20 is a wonderful Old Testament passage about the Holy Spirit of God.

    Yet for many years You had patience with them, and testified against them by Your Spirit in Your prophets. Yet they would not listen; therefore You gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands.” (Nehemiah 9:30)

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  • TFRStaff 7:57 am on January 14, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Who needs a Bible? 

    Some believe the Holy Spirit works directly on the heart of sinners to save them, and then to sanctify them, without any effort on the part of the one being saved or sanctified.

    If that’s so, why are there commands in the Bible? In fact, if the Holy Spirit does the work of saving or sanctifying apart from the knowledge of the truth found in the Bible, then why did God bother to write it at all?

    —Rick Kelley, Prestonsburg KY bulletin

     
    • preachercarter 2:11 pm on January 14, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Very good point! While I believe the Bible is specific for believers all believers were at one time infidels. Yes, the Spirit draws but He uses the Word to draw.

  • Randal 6:20 am on September 29, 2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Get a tongue, or else 

    PentecostalismYesterday afternoon late we finished a lengthy study with a lady and a Christian couple who’ve been studying with her, about the Holy Spirit, specifically, about the cessation of miracles. Many Pentecostal groups connect tongue-speaking with salvation. They teach that speaking in tongues is a sign or proof of salvation. Hence, people are encouraged to seek after a tongue-speaking experience. How discouraging that must be!

    • People also labor under the delusion that God can only work in this world through a miracle. How the Lord must be disappointed that someone thinks he is so limited in his powers! One section of the handout I gave our study friends was titled, “The Spirit Continues to Work” (my translation), just so nobody would get the idea that we think the faith is a dead religion today. Far from it!

    • On the flip side of this coin, some call just about anything a miracle, a sunrise, the birth of a child. Things which are decidedly not miracles. Now, the virginal conception of Christ—that was a miracle!

    • Pentecostals and charismatics sometimes ask, “Does your church have miracles?” Sometimes I’ve answered, “Yes, we have the many miracles recorded in the Bible.” Their expressions reveal they don’t think much of my answer. If your church doesn’t have miracles and tongues and cures, you’re second-class. Maybe not even Christian.

    • If first-century preachers could call the pagan idols false gods, we ought to help others see that the so-called miracles today are false signs. These diminish the true signs and wonders which God performed through his Son and his apostles. They also open the door to false revelations. Same ball of icky wax. (More …)

     
    • robertebarger 9:05 pm on September 29, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I must ask, do you speak in tongues? There are two sides of the fence. On one side is people who believe and prove the truth, and people who believe part of the bible and don’t prove anything. The Holy Ghost is a gift of God to people who have a pure heart and cry out to God and are willing to do anything God asks them to do. These are the people who God gives the Holy Ghost to and they do speak in tongues. The book of Acts shows us how people are to live in the Spirit every day. The apostles walked with Jesus and Jesus told them this is what is going to happen. In Hebrews 4 God warns us of unbelief and he warns us that we are to be careful not to fall after the same unbelief that the children of Israel fell into. WE must “prove” that we have the Holy Ghost because it tells us in 1 corinthians 12:1-3. No man can call Jesus Lord except by the Hloy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is just the beginning of our walk. John chapter 1 tells us,And as many as recieve Him gave He power to “BECOME SONS OF GOD”!.

      • J. Randal Matheny 7:50 am on October 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I speak in two tongues, English and Portuguese, though neither was a miraculous gift. I had to work hard to be fluent in the second one and had much to learn to improve the first.

        BTW, the Holy Spirit is not a ghost.

      • Eugene Adkins 6:18 pm on October 1, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I speak only English, Robert, and I have never spoken in any miraculous tongue that the Bible speaks of.

        So are you saying that I am not saved? Are you saying that I do not have a pure heart? Are you saying that I do not believe the truth? And where do you get this standard of judgment that you are using?

        Are you saying that the Christians in 1 Corinthians 12:1-11, 27-31 who could not all speak in tongues were not saved, pure in heart or a believer of the truth?

        You do realize that even in the churches to whom the letters were written to, the letters that we read today, had members who could not speak in tongues don’t you?

        Just for clarification, Robert, what discernible/intelligent/understandable language do you speak that is not your native language and one you never studied?

        Please answer my questions…and read the scripture references above before you answer.

        Thanks for your time.

        • robertebarger 12:42 pm on October 2, 2012 Permalink

          Speaking In Tongues

          #1) Who speaks in tongues? Them who believe.
          Jesus said in Mark 16 (How do we know we have the Holy Ghost? By searching the scriptures. The scriptures are where God shows us that there is a Holy Ghost, and what will happen when you have the Holy Ghost. (Not Holy Spirit, the two are different!)
          14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
          15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
          16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
          17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
          18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
          19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
          20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
          Romans 8:
          26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings (Tongues) which cannot be uttered. (Uttered- understood.)
          27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. (Tongues)
          Jude 1:17-21
          17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
          18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
          19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. (How will we know that they don’t have the Spirit? They do not believe in speaking in tongues and praying in the Holy Ghost.)
          20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, (Tongues)
          21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
          1 Corinthians 12:1-3
          12 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
          2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
          3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

          2 Timothy 3:5
          3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
          2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
          3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
          4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
          5 Having a form of godliness, but denying “the power thereof”: from such turn away. (This is the Holy Ghost!)
          6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
          7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (Without the Holy Ghost the veil will not be taken off your eyes in the reading of Moses. 2 Corinthians 3:13-16)
          Acts 10:
          44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
          45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. (How did they know they received the Holy Ghost? They spoke with tongues)
          46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
          47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
          48 And he commanded them to be baptized “in the name of the Lord”. (In the name of Jesus Christ!) Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
          Acts 19:1-6
          19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
          2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
          3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
          4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
          5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
          6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
          Paul in 1 Corinthians chapter 14 & 15 explains speaking in tongues and prophesying.
          1 Corinthians 14
          King James Version (KJV)
          14 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. (This is a commandment to us to desire spiritual gifts!)
          2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
          3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
          4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself;(He that speaks in tongues edifieth himself and is speaking to God, not men!) but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
          5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
          In the book of Acts chapter 8 there is a place where a person desired to have the Holy Ghost but Peter rebuked him and told him that because he had sin in his life, he could not receive the Holy Ghost.
          Acts 8:9-24
          9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
          10 To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God.
          11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.
          12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
          13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
          14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
          15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
          16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
          17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
          18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
          19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.
          20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
          21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.
          22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
          23 For I perceive that thou art in “the gall of bitterness”, and in “the bond of iniquity”.
          24 Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the LORD for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me.
          (Simon’s heart was not right, therefore he could not receive the “gift of the Holy Ghost”! Peter told him to “REPENT”!
          I hope this gives you some understanding in speaking in tongues. Tongues is the way Jesus intercesses for us to the Father. As it told us in Romans 8, The spirit, of Christ, searches the heart and makes intercession for us according to the “perfect” will of God. Some one who does not have the Holy Ghost is praying in their own understanding and cannot pray in the perfect will of God because it is hid from their understanding. Another purpose in praying in tongues is for warfare against Satan to stop him from doing things in our life. Praying in tongues is also used for us to make intercession for other people. Tongues also are for us to come into the Joy of the Lord. It allows us to come into the deep praises of God that God might inhabit the praises of His people.

        • robertebarger 12:55 pm on October 2, 2012 Permalink

          Here is another scripture that is importent to remember.
          1 Corinthians 2
          King James Version (KJV)

          2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

          2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

          3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

          4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

          5 “That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.” (Pual could have spoke in ways that would have convented you that he was a learned man, but he told us here that even though he was a learned man, he wanted you to believe in the power of God over being learned.because the power of God is the thing that holds the anointing that brakes the yoke of Satan!)

          6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

          7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

          8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

          9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

          10″””””” But God hath revealed them unto us” by his Spirit: for the Spirit” searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.”””

      • Eugene Adkins 5:45 pm on October 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Robert, you did not answer a single question that I asked.

        And please, instead of filling up the comments with pasted scriptures, just give the scripture reference; I know how to look up scripture references.

        And by the way, the scriptures you referenced has nothing to do with the questions I asked.

        I will again ask them and I will be waiting for your answer. They do not have to be long. They should be very easy questions to answer.

        Because of your comments you made toward Randal and the fact that I never spoken in miraculous tongues…

        1) Are you saying that I am not saved?

        2) Are you saying that I do not have a pure heart?

        3) Are you saying that I do not believe the truth?

        4) Where do you get this standard of judgment that you are using?

        5) Are you saying that the Christians in 1 Corinthians 12:1-11, 27-31 who could not all speak in tongues were not saved, pure in heart or a believer of the truth?

        6) You do realize that even in the churches to whom the letters were written to, the letters that we read today, had members who could not speak in tongues don’t you?

        7) Just for clarification, Robert, what discernible/intelligent/understandable language do you speak that is not your native language and one you never studied? Acts 2 plainly shows this to be an aspect of the miraculous tongues given by God’s Spirit!

        • robertebarger 6:50 pm on October 2, 2012 Permalink

          Yes I speak in tongues. Yes, all who recieve the Holy Ghost do speak in tongues. Yes, if you do not become just like Jesus, without sin, yes you are not saved. Yes said, if you recieve me not I judge you not, but my words on that day will judge you.

      • Eugene Adkins 7:41 pm on October 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Robert, again, you didn’t answer my questions. They are not difficult to answer, Robert.

        You said, “These are the people who God gives the Holy Ghost to and they do speak in tongues.

        Are you saying that unless a person can speak in tongues, they are not saved?

        I challenge you right now to show me where Jesus or anyone else in the Bible said such a thing.

        Sadly, you have been led to believe such a thing by a spirit but it was not the Spirit of God because He has not said such a thing in His inspired word.

        What about the Christians in 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 and 27-31 who could not speak in tongues? Are you actually saying they were not saved, pure in heart, believers of truth, etc. because they could not speak in tongues? Read the scriptures, Robert, it’s right there in the scriptures. There were saved Christians in the church at Corinth who could not speak in tongues.

        You place much emphasis on “proving” things so here’s your chance. Answer my previous questions that you have ignored and the new question that I presented to you here.

        If you chose to not do so then my response will be the same one you gave to Randal and your silence will be “Enough said!”

        • robertebarger 8:32 pm on October 2, 2012 Permalink

          I have given you more than enough scriptures to prove that what I said is true. Now, prove to me you do have the Holy Ghost by two or three scriptures.

      • Eugene Adkins 9:02 pm on October 2, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        For someone who supposedly “speaks multiple tongues” you sure don’t have much to say when people ask you simple questions, Robert.

        Enough said.

  • Eugene Adkins 6:39 am on September 7, 2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Good Road Sign 

    I saw one sign in a neighboring county a long time ago that has always stuck with me:

    The Spirit of God uses the word of God to make you like the Son of God.

    I think it’s an incredibly thoughtful sign without being a big mouthful. Since I saw it I have committed it to memory because not only can I use it to teach others, but also I use it to teach myself.

    Scripture connection: “But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,” (Colossians 3:8-10)

     
    • Don Ruhl 10:49 am on September 7, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I agree with you, Eugene, it says much without saying it in too many words. Now if I can just learn to preach and write in that manner.

      It is also an awesome thought!

    • Don Ruhl 11:43 am on September 9, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I have now added this saying to our congregation’s web site masthead. Go to grantspasschurchofchrist.com to see it.

  • Richard Mansel 1:37 pm on June 7, 2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Question About the Holy Spirit 

    A question occurred to me recently that I had never considered before.

    The Holy Spirit has always been active in the realm of men. First mentioned in Genesis 1:2, the Spirit has been involved, faithfully doing the will of God in whatever way He was needed (Genesis 1:26; Psalm 51:11, et al).

    In addition, the Holy Spirit directed the Word of God to men so God’s will could be taught and obeyed (2 Peter 1:21). The Spirit has been active in various ways since before time began.

    With that in mind, Jesus teaches the Apostles in John 14-16 that the Holy Spirit would come as a Comforter (John 14:16) and as a Teacher (John 14:26). Later, He hastens the arrival of the Church (Acts).

    Jesus said:

    “Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you” (John 16:7, cf. 14:16).

    Considering the presence of the Holy Spirit throughout Scripture…

    • How is it that the Spirit could not come until Jesus left?
    • In what way had He not come, considering He had always been here working for God?
    • Why had He left in the first place?
    • In what way had He left?

    Had the Spirit not been a Comforter and Teacher already in His role as a carrier of God’s will and word?

    I find this an interesting thought question and I look forward to your answers.

     
    • Ron Thomas 2:50 pm on June 7, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Not having given a lot of thought to the series of questions before this, I offer some initial thoughts. 1) The HS was present, but the capacity of His work only varied. Thus, He did not come in a particular way that He was to soon come. 2) I would suggest a two-fold way: Acts 2:38 and 5:32 (though there might be a dispute about the application of that verse), the passage you mentioned, and Hebrews 2:1-4. 3) Did He leave, or did He work only in a varied ways? I think the latter. 4) I don’t believe He did leave; His work is only different.

    • Kyle Massengale 3:54 pm on June 7, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Considering the presence of the Holy Spirit throughout Scripture…

      How is it that the Spirit could not come until Jesus left? In what way had He not come, considering He had always been here working for God? Why had He left in the first place? In what way had He left?

      It is interesting to note that the apostles already had the power to perform miracles prior to Jesus’ words recorded by John. Also, it is recorded that Jesus said “Receive ye the Holy Spirit” and breathed on them after his resurrection and before the day of Pentecost (John 20:22). And of course, we have the events that took place in Acts 2. So the coming of the Spirit must mean something different than the ability to perform miracles, speak by the authority of Christ (which is what Jesus meant in John 20:22). Therefore, I would conclude that the mentioning of the Spirit in John 14-17 is connected with the delivering of the full revelation of the mystery of Christ – the complete story of redemption and salvation. When Peter and the apostles spoke to the crowd in Jerusalem, they were clear to say that what the people were hearing was from God -“with signs which you now see and HEAR.” Peter then stated that Christ is now seated at the right hand of God – the rest of the story. Such claim could not have been made or witnessed to without it becoming a reality and the Spirit relaying the full message to fleshly men. The Spirit could ‘come’ in this sense only after the promise became a reality and thus be able to draw along side of the witnesses to testify of the matter. The phrase “and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” I believe, should be read in this context – now trusting in Christ you will now know or receive the knowledge and reality regarding the full mystery of God’s eternal purpose.

      It would be in the absence of Christ on earth that the full revelation could take place. The medium to make this known had to be by the Spirit who occupied the spiritual realm and then spoke it to the witnesses.

      Jesus said before ascending to heaven “All Power has been given unto me in heaven and on earth…” Paul said “I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for IT is the power of God unto salvation.” There are several different realms of power spoken of in scripture – creation power, miraculous power, providential power, etc. yet it has been expressed by the Spirit that the power toward the saving of my soul is the Gospel of Christ. Notice that the Gospel of Christ does not lead me to some other power that brings salvation. IT IS the power of God unto salvation. It is not the Spirit’s power but Gospel power. God has chosen the power of his character of morality – God has put the power to save man in his revelation of moral law and character. When man sees God’s full moral law as delivered by the Spirit, he makes a choice to obey it or deny it.

    • thebiblestudent 8:24 pm on June 7, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I find it very interesting that the majority of times the Spirit is mentioned in the OT, miracles are the result. Read through Judges and just about every time you read “and the Spirit fell/came upon_____” something miraculous was about to happen. It was after the Spirit came upon Jesus after His baptism that Jesus began working miracles. When the Spirit came upon the apostles, the result was miracles. When the apostles laid hands on people, the Spirit was passed to them, and miracles were the result.

      Being able to perform miracles and have miraculous knowledge would be comfort to those apostles who were about to face amazing persecution and torment from the group that HAD been God’s people. The Spirit would come as a constant reminder to the apostles that Jesus IS who He said He was. The Spirit would come to confirm the words the apostles were preaching, thus bringing comfort to the hearers.

      Why wouldn’t the Spirit come if Jesus stayed? Because they had no need of the miraculous knowledge when Jesus Himself was in their midst. Also, it was prophesied that the Spirit would be poured out on all flesh (Joel 2), and that prophecy was fulfilled in the church, beginning with Pentecost. If Jesus was still on earth, certain prophecies about the Spirit could not yet be fulfilled.

    • Jim Eckerberg 10:05 pm on June 7, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Years ago, Bro. Ruel Lemmons talked about this topic at a local Lectureship that I attended in K. C., MO. His teaching, that I fully agreed with after studying it, follows: The HS, as well as Christ, had been on the earth many times and had influenced lives many times before the coming of Chrfist. (Fiery furnace, meeting with Joshua before Jericho, etc.) Christ came for our salvation and died on Calvary which was his actual coming to earth. The promised HS then came on the day of Penecost, this being the baptism of the HS, which was to the whole world, just as Christ’s sacrifice on the cross was for the whole world for all time. The HS had never been promised to anyone before as he was in Acts 2:38ff. Each Christian now has the individual dwelling of the HS, not a general presence in the world as HE was before. Of course the Spirit always speaks in a quiet voice to us if we listen (still small voice). This does not ,mean that he speaks directly to us but HE does show us the way to go in many ways. And we can follow HIS leading if we want to. The problem is we all have a “I want to do it my way” attitude about everything we do at home, at work and in the church also. I am 800 miles away from home having a good time in Branson with my wife, daughter, her husband and one of my grandchildren and her friend so this is just a quick answer to your thoughts. Maybe we can discuss this at a latr date. I won’t be home for about two weeks — family reunion vacation etc. Jim Eckerberg

  • Randal 4:28 pm on October 24, 2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Deaver-Vick debate begins tonight 

    Debate on Holy Spirit

    Weylan's photo from the debate site

    The debate begins tonight, at 7 p.m. Eastern time. Johnny Robertson said on Facebook that it can be seen on several spots:

    The Debate is now being re-streamed from several websties and or blogs. OABS is going to have it up live, Gospel Of Christ, and Biblical Notes. See it from face book here.

    Weylan will be tweeting during the debate, apparently. He has a preview up of the debate on Biblical Notes.

    We trust this debate will contribute to a better understanding of the work of God’s Spirit and his presence among his people.

     
  • Richard Mansel 1:01 pm on April 10, 2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Someone’s Confused 

    Someone tells me on Twitter that the Holy Spirit needs my help reviewing a new version of the New Testament. I’m quite certain the Holy Spirit doesn’t need my help with anything. God is quite capable of handling things without me. :)

    It is ridiculous that people borrow the names of the Godhead whenever they need Them.  We need to pray for those who are deceived by false teachers in this world (Galatians 1:6-9).

    We are to fear God (Proverbs 14:27) and that would certainly include His name! (Exodus 20:7). Stay strong by staying in the book. (John 14:15).

     
  • Ron Thomas 11:04 am on August 31, 2010 Permalink | Reply
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    I am currently making my way through it, but if the trend continues, my disappointment will also continue. The book is “A Spirit For The Rest of Us” (Tim Woodroof). He attempts to make the topic of the Holy Spirit (HS) more easily understood, but his handling of passages in a few places (thus far) has me wandering if he even understand the topic. Very disappointing.

     
  • Randal 12:28 am on March 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Gasp! First tag for Holy Spirit 

    Holy Spirit

    No tag for Him!

    My previous post was the first tag for the third person of the Divinity.

    It’s not like we’ve not written about him and his work or mentioned him in our posts — I checked. But we’re not tagging any of our posts with “Holy Spirit.”

    I want to encourage you to do that.

    Even the Godhead as a whole suffers, since we’re talking among Christians and often assume, one might suppose, that the conversation is about God. So the tags don’t always reflect the emphasis of our posts.

    Take this as a call, if you like, to tag the Godhead, and especially the Holy Spirit, more.

     
    • Larry Miles 1:11 am on March 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Amen on that! We need to stress more the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives! He is active in our lives and not only through the Word of God. The Holy Spirit inspired the Word of God, for which we will be eternally grateful.

    • Robert 5:16 am on March 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      It is wonderful that you have brought this subject up. I often wonder why Christians neglect the Holy Spirit (as opposed to other topics). If you think about it, the Holy Spirit is involved (or should be) in every Christian decision we make, being that we should center our decisions on the Word of God. Without the Holy Spirit of Promise we would not have the Word of God as it was revealed to the Apostles in the First Century Church.

  • Randal 11:56 pm on March 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Acts 2:38 Revisited 

    Acts 2:38The hope is to fill out these talking points, used in the pulpit Sunday morning while a baby screamed, and post it on my weblog. This week looks dismal for it, however. So here it goes in cryptic form.

    1. General Application: “repent”. Third person plural. Applies to all. Luke’s special interest (Lk 13:1-5; 24:47). Needed emphasis today.

    2. Personal commitment: “each one of you be baptized”. Third person singular, imperative. Has to be an individual decision. Baptism means becoming a disciple, being a part of the group (2:41, 47). The end of sin, the beginning of service.

    3. Messianic mandate: “in the name of Jesus Christ.” By his authority. As if he were here — Luke wrote about what Jesus began to do and teach; here, he continues teaching and saving.

    4. Purpose: “for the forgiveness of your sins”. Sin separates from God, forgiveness permits fellowship with him. Jesus wants us to know why we do what we do. Same construction as found in Matt. 26:28. “Baptism now saves us.”

    5. Result: “you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”. A difference between purpose and result. Gift is the Spirit (think, a present of a shirt).  He is the power for transformation of life and service of proclamation.

     
    • Laura 10:21 am on March 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I think it important to note that there are different opinions as to what “the gift of the Holy Spirit” means in Acts 2:38. I’ve heard many different views on this. First, it could mean the Holy Spirit is the gift given, or it could mean that the Holy Spirit gives us an unnamed gift (think “the gift of your father”, in which case the gift is not your father but rather what your father gives). I should note that this latter possibility is *usually* what we mean in English when a person is after the “of”. However, many of the Pentecostal persuasion take the former and use that to “prove” there are miraculous gifts today. After that, the debate really flies as to what the gift does for us, or not. Please, let’s not debate. But in fairness, alternative views of what this phrase mean that are equally credible should be presented.

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