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  • Randal 4:42 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , NLT, TV evangelism,   

    Of tweets, numbers, Bible sites and 2 questions 

    Over on Twitter I asked and got no answer, perhaps because my tweet was in the midst of a flurry of others, perhaps because it was on a Friday night. So here goes my question: Prof. John Hick died a few days ago. Was he not in a debate with one of our folk? I have a book with his name on it in my library, which I’ve not seen in a few days, but can’t remember if it’s a debate book with a brother. Do you know?

    • My personal Twitter account hit 7000 tweets last night. I noticed quite by accident, as I went looking for John H.’s username to recommend on the Friend Friday feature. (He’s got a numerical digits in his, so I have a hard time remembering it.) I thought it was a lot of tweets, only to discover that not a few friends (hi, Richard) have surpassed me by not a little. To tell the truth, I was actually relieved that I didn’t appear too chatty. Or wordy. Or wasteful of time. And, it must be added, I’ve been on Twitter for quite a long time. (Does Twitter anywhere show when we signed up?)

    • Of course, if we were looking for big numbers and records, I could add up all my tweets across the various accounts. I’m embarrassed to name them all. There’s one for BNc, one for FPress, a couple, just a couple, in Portuguese. That’s all I’ll admit to right now. Oh, and I must get Quick Bible Truths in there. It has the most followers.

    • A lot of congregational tweets suggest Bible readings: “Today’s reading is such-and-such book, chapter 555.” But no link. Why no link? If people are reading the tweet on the Internet, stands to reason that they might, just might be more likely to read if they have a link to a Bible chapter on the Internet as well. What do you think?

    • Another question for you that got asked here before, but got no replies. Besides the NLT, are there any Bible sites out there with just the version—and a modern version at that, not the KJV or ASV—minus any manmade teaching materials or articles?

    • The NLT publisher is smart: They set up a site for their version with a short URL perfect for posting, attractive, flexible, legible, easy to use, with just the Bible text (no articles or teaching material), and with no fancy, heavy graphics. It’s about as good as you can get. Though the NLT is not always my favorite rendering, I use the site a lot, because of the site quality.

    • A last item, to recommend: David Kenney has broadcast the first Bible Talk of the Wadsworth congregation. Check it out, I’m sure he’d be encouraged by your visit.

    • Ron Thomas 4:56 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      Randal, I have over one hundred debate books and booklets. The only “Hicks” I have in any of those – as best I can recall – is Olan Hicks on MDR. **** With regard to tweeting, I am so “wet behind the ears” on that, that I do more perusing than anything else, and then I am not consistent.

      • J. Randal Matheny 4:58 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Maybe that’s the one I’m remember, Ron. As soon as I get to my library, I’ll pull that Hick book out and see what it is. In my mind, I see a white circle on the cover. Funny what one remembers.

        I’m migrating more to Twitter after unpinning the FB tab on Firefox.

        • Ron Thomas 5:05 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          Of the three Hicks debates books I have there is no image of a white circle, but there is on the Warren-Fuqua debate (same topic).

        • Ron Thomas 5:09 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          I am confused about the quality of one over the other – whether it is google, twitter, FB, or any others.

        • J. Randal Matheny 5:13 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          I’m almost certain I don’t have the Warren-Fuqua debate.

          Once Friendica gets a few bugs worked out, I’m headed that direction. Not ditching the others completely, but liking it a lot for its non-commercial nature. (http//friendica.com) FB and G+ are data harvesters, which I don’t like. They all have their pluses and minues.

        • Ron Thomas 5:19 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          Thanks for the info. I will have to entertain some additional thoughts on that. **** Time to work on Zen Buddhism for a preacher’s retreat in June. Want to come again?

        • J. Randal Matheny 5:24 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          They’re all good for getting the word out, FB probably the best, then Twitter.

          Would love to be there. What’s the date? I just might be in the US still around the first part of the month.

        • Ron Thomas 5:29 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          I think it’s June 4-6, but I went to the Fairfield website to do a confirm, and I got an “oops!” I FB’d Justin to let him know.

        • J. Randal Matheny 5:56 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          That date might just work, if I’m not having to be halfway across the continent reporting. Maybe I could work out with Eureka …

        • Stephen R. Bradd 7:06 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          June 4-6 is correct for Dahlgren retreat. It’d be great if you can make it Randal.

          I recall reading about a John Mark Hicks (a rising “star” back in the 70s, I think). I don’t remember any debates, however.

        • J. Randal Matheny 7:12 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          Let’s see how our itinerary goes. Thanks, Stephen.

          John Mark and I were in the same class and dorm at FHU. He’s a progressive now. Wouldn’t be the same guy.

        • Richard Hill 7:14 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          No problem. I should be toward the end of the spring work. You can come “work out” with me. Maybe we could go on a little hike again. It’s only been about 35 years since the last one!

        • J. Randal Matheny 7:17 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          I’d really hate to show you up on the work-out, since you’re all out of shape. Ditto for the hike. But we could do a mountain instead of the Grand Canyon. If that doesn’t cause breathing problems for you rarefied air. Oh, wait, no mountains Ill.

        • Ron Thomas 7:22 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          We have “mountains” in IL (north of Marion) – they are all “mountains” where they bury the garbage!

        • J. Randal Matheny 7:19 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          Hmm, WP bleeped out “in” twice in my previous reply. I used the toolbar to reply. Must be buggy.

        • Richard Hill 7:24 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          Seriously, that is a time we should be able to work something out. Just let us know.

        • J. Randal Matheny 7:25 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          That comment sounded almost political, Ron. :) Those mountains would be a challenge to climb, for sure.

    • Will 7:33 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      John Hicks??? I have no idea of whom you’re speaking… give some background please…

      • J. Randal Matheny 7:35 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Will, there’s a link in the text to Hick’s obituary.

        • John Henson 9:54 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          Hicks (not Hick) debated Andrew Connally. I had that book and lost it on the move here. Funny how that happens. I don’t know of a debate by Bro. Hick.

        • J. Randal Matheny 10:00 am on February 18, 2012 Permalink

          Prof. Hick (I had it spelled wrong in the post) isn’t a brother. It’s probably a book he wrote that I have, not a debate. Age is stealing my memory. (At least, now, I have that excuse.)

  • Randal 6:20 pm on November 13, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , NLT, usefulness   

    Giving you the desire 

    Our text this afternoon in the Taubaté church Bible study was Philippians 2:12-16. A phrase that never ceases to delight and encourage me is in v. 13: “for the one bringing forth in you both the desire and the effort – for the sake of his good pleasure – is God” (NET). NLT translates it as “giving you the desire.” Let no one ever say of the Kingdom of God, “I don’t feel like it.”

    • For the second time ever, we had more in attendance this afternoon in Taubaté than in SJCampos this morning. Tuesday is a holiday, so Friday through Tuesday is a long holiday for many. Which means that SJCampos tends to lose people, since few are from there, and that Taubaté gets visitors.

    • One of the things I do in my service in the Kingdom of God is help people connect. Especially, Christians with other Christians. So I was pleased to get a note today from London, after a young Brazilian Christian had visited a congregation there. She felt right at home. By coincidence, even the order of worship was the same as her home congregation. Many of the songs she knew. She was happy to see that they worship the Lord the same way we do here in Brazil. She thanked me for having helped her find the congregation. I thanked her for her priority in meeting with the Lord’s church during her stay there.

    • Do you ever feel useless? Feelings have no exact correspondence with reality, but they sometimes make their own reality, if only in our heads. So we can thank God for texts like Galatians 6:7-10 and 1 Corinthians 15:58. Powerful reminders that what we do makes a difference. An eternal difference.

    • I just noticed the NLT translation of that latter verse: “nothing you do for the Lord is ever useless.” That’s as good a way of putting it as I’ve ever heard. You?

    • I use the http://nlt.to site a lot because the NLT often has a good way of expressing the meaning of a text. (See previous paragraph. It does have its problems, some of which I’ve mentioned on my personal blog.) And that site, which also serves to shorten URLs, has only the Biblical text. Nothing else. Such a feature I like, a lot. Do you know of any other site which offers only the text of a recent, major Bible version, without comments or notes?

  • Randal 6:10 pm on June 17, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Bible versions online, ESV, NLT   

    Short URLs for Bible versions 

    I noticed Larry M. used a short URL for the ESV in a Facebook post, which redirects to their main Bible study site (unfortunately, in my mind): http://esv.to/

    The NLT also has one: http://nlt.to/ with the Bible text only, which I like.

    Do you know of any others?

    These are good for emails, Twitter, and other spots where space is at a premium.

    UPDATE: I forgot a good one: http://ref.ly/ but I’m not sure what versions are available with it.

    • Jason Longwith 8:31 pm on June 17, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Randal, I came across the following site: http://bib.ly. It look like it shows the passage in the ESV by default, but you then have the option to choose from 9 sites and can make any of them your new default.

      • J. Randal Matheny 8:38 pm on June 17, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Beautiful! Jason! Even has NET. Thanks so miuch for this one.

        • Larry Miles 8:28 am on June 20, 2011 Permalink

          Randal – sometimes when I am work using my I Pad or Android Phone– I am reading in my ESV and I see a verse I want to share via Twitter or Facebook. It has a sharing option– and I use it to get it out. Sorry for any problems.

        • J. Randal Matheny 2:51 pm on June 20, 2011 Permalink

          Larry, no problem whatsoever, and no reason to apologize. In fact, on the contrary, when I saw your post, it reminded me of several services available, so you were the inspiration, so to speak, for the post.

        • Larry Miles 6:25 pm on June 20, 2011 Permalink

          I added a post on http://larryslines.com using the new plug in bib.ly

  • Randal 10:16 am on October 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , GNB, mistranslations, NLT   

    Saturday evening in Acts 20.7 

    Probably the worst rendering I can think of, to my mind, because of the impact it has doctrinally on a central teaching like the Lord’s supper, is Acts 20:7 in the Good News Bible (TEV). It substitutes the phrase, “Saturday evening,” for “On the first day of the week.”

    This is perpetuated in the Brazilian Portuguese equivalent (Bíblia na Linguagem de Hoje), and was not corrected in a new edition (Nova Tradução na Linguagem de Hoje).

    It may have nothing to do with it, since the so-called emerging churches just don’t bother to pay attention to the Bible, but it makes one wonder if this mis-translation has been used to justify churches eating the Lord’s supper on Saturday nights and other times during the week.

    That said, another bad one is the NLT rendering of 2 Timothy 4:1, which I noticed just last night; it appears to lend support to premillenialism. And my first impressions of the NLT were so favorable. *Sigh*

  • Randal 4:06 pm on March 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: mobile devices, NLT   

    NLT for iPhone and iPod Touch 

    Got to grab this time-limited offer quick, but you can get the New Living Translation offline for your iPhone and iPod, whatever those are. (I live in another world.)

    The offer comes through YouVersion.com, which has other versions available for mobile devices as well.

    • Mike Riley 6:07 pm on March 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Don’t have no iPhone nor iPod, so I guess I’m completely out of the loop! HA!

    • Larry Miles 10:12 pm on March 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I have an I Touch– I’ve got the ESV from Crossway on it– can access it even when away from Wi- Fi

    • Walt Bell 11:09 pm on March 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I have an iPod Touch and I have the Laridian Pocket Bible on it. It has ASV 1901, KJV, NKJV, NAS w/Strongs, several commentaries, several Bible dictionaries, Fox’s Book of Martyrs and Works of Josephus (lots of other books available). All of the above are FREE at the Apple app store. I don’t know why they are free because most of this I had on my Palm before I switched to the Touch but had to purchase them. Likewise they are downloaded and don’t require wifi to access.

    • Mike Riley 8:46 pm on March 31, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      How about the new IPad that debuts on Saturday? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100331/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_apple_ipad

      Can it be used to teach folks the Bible in a home setting?

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