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  • Ron Thomas 10:00 am on October 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    The Qur’an and Jesus 

    Perhaps you are not aware of what the Qur’an says about Jesus. That which is taught, one can learn in Surah 2 (a “Surah” will correspond to a “Book,” or perhaps a “chapter” in the Bible). For instance, in Surah 2:87, one learns that Jesus was mortal. One won’t read that in the verse, but Islamic commentators will declare it. “Maulana gives some instruction concerning the Qur’an’s use of the Arabic word for Jesus (Īsā), followed by the epithet ‘son of Mary,’ ‘to show that he was a mortal like other prophets of God’” (footnote 128 in Maulana Muhammad Ali’s translation and commentary on the Qur’an; from RT’s personal study notes of the Qur’an).

    The significance of this is in relation to what the Scriptures teach relative to Jesus. Note what charge the apostle Paul gave to Timothy, a young preacher he left in Ephesus: I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who in his testimony before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which he will display at the proper time–he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen (1 Timothy 6:13-16, ESV).

    One does not need any other reason to oppose Islam, though there are untold numbers more!

     
    • sammubani 2:35 pm on October 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      O my respected brother have u studied Qur’an well?
      “Say, “O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you – that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah.” But if they turn away, then say, “Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].” Al-qur’an 3:64
        “(116) And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
      ( 117 )   I said not to them except what You commanded me – to worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness.
      ( 118 )   If You should punish them – indeed they are Your servants; but if You forgive them – indeed it is You who is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.”
      Al-qur’an sura maeda: 116-118

    • Eugene Adkins 6:56 am on October 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I know you’re aware of these Ron, but let me add a couple of more reasons from the scriptures that prove Jesus was no mere finite mortal man for your readers…

      In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God….And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.” (John 1:1, 14)

      For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.” (John 5:22-23)

      But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” (John 6:68-69)

      Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” (John 8:58)

      Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.” (John 10:17-18)

      Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.” (John 11:25-27)

      And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.” (John 17:5)

      Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” (John 20:27-29)

      And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.” (John 20:30-31)

      That is why I love John’s gospel – it’s the raw truth on Jesus for a religiously cooked world.

      • Ron Thomas 7:41 am on October 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Very good, Eugene. I have much more, but I have to pare it down. I think I have about ten pages of notes, and accumlating more. On Oct 17, 2014 6:56 AM, “The Fellowship Room” wrote:

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        • John Henson 11:37 am on October 17, 2014 Permalink

          Islam must attack the deity of Christ or else explain how it could be wrong about its god and prophet. Thanks, Ron. Another good piece for our bulletin.

        • Ron Thomas 5:26 am on October 19, 2014 Permalink

          Thank you, John. So sorry for the late response. Got back from Columbus late last night. Have a great day, brother.

    • sammubani 1:20 pm on October 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      O My all respected brothers and sisters you’re men and women thinking deeply. You are reader. You aren’t deceived easily by unreasonable evidence. If you don’t like don’t read my comments. Read Qur’an. Don’t read Muslims. What do you want from this world? Is it not happiness? What do you want from hereafter? Again it’s happiness. I was born from Muslim family. Thanks to God Who chosen ISLAM for me. Also you had had great opportunity during your birth by being born on Islam. I Congratulate you by being born on Islam. Unfortunately, your family changed your inborn religion that is Islam to other. “So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.” Qur’an Surah ar-Rum: 30
      Still you have opportunity to return to your God.” Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad] and those [before Him] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians – those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness – no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.” Al-Maaida :69 (5:69) Don’t miss this opportunity O my beloved one. If you weren’t beloved for me, I would not give you this piece of information. You aren’t my enemy as long as we discuss our religions in peace. Islam didn’t teach us to fight those who live with us in peace. I haven’t words to explain the happiness I have found from Islam. Don’t see Muslims O my respected brother and sisters in humanity. Open the book with clean heart. Don’t be confused with cover. ISLAM is great book, Muslims are its cover. So can you decide a book by its cover? Cover may not have colours which attract you.
      Don’t blame Islam by seeing what followers do.

      • John Henson 12:08 pm on October 23, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        “Don’t blame Islam by seeing what followers do.” Sir, please see the complete contrast in what you wrote and what Jesus said in John 8:31-32, “Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed; And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” See the difference? True religion demands the follower obey. How can we call ourselves “followers” if we’re not willing to follow. Perhaps the truth is that the followers of the Qur’an ARE following indeed.

        • sammubani 3:24 pm on October 23, 2014 Permalink

          May peace and blessing of Almighty God be upon you o my dear brother. In the name of Allah , the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.
          If someone says I am Christian or Muslim even though his deeds are opposite to religious orders, do you have choice of calling him other than this? Thanks to God I am Muslim but I don’t implement my religious orders 100%. But I fear God not to transgress its main boundaries. For example not to worship other than God, praying five times per day, fasting in the month of Ramadan, if I own wealth to give zakat(A charity which is given for poor people every year from my wealth 2.5%),going to Makkah if I have enough wealth.
          If someone implements these orders but does sins what would you call him? Do call him atheist?
          Would mind if I ask you one question? Do you follow Christianity? I expect your short answer is ‘Yes’. You know Christian is a person who follows Jesus. Am I not sure? In my life I couldn’t find a person who follows Jesus although he claims Christianity.
          The base of religion is believing in only one God Who has the following attributes
          ( 1 )   Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One,’
          (2) Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
          ( 3 )  He neither begets nor is born,
          (4) Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” Al Qur’an 112:1-4
          So if someone says “Jesus is my Lord” ,he is not following Jesus. Because Jesus didn’t order any one to worship him. Rather he was ordering to worship his Lord.
          “They have certainly disbelieved who say, ” Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary” while the Messiah has said, “O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord.” Indeed, he who associates others with Allah – Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.” Al-qur’an 5:72 (Al-maeda: 72)
          You know Jesus was eating, sleeping. do you think if the Controller of the world had slumbered for second, this world would have stood by itself? Human being is weak. Through sleeping and eating he regains his energy. So do you expect this weakness from Almighty God?
          “They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, “Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?” And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.”
          Al-qur’an 5:17 ( Al-maeda :17)

          Really do you believe from your heart one is equal to three; three is equal to one?
          “O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist – it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.”
          Al-qur’an 4:171(An-Nisa:171)
          If you are searcher of truth surely your Lord help you. He Guides you to Straight path. “It is You we worship and You we ask for help. Guide us to the straight path -” Al-qur’an 1:5-6 (Al-Fatiha:5-6)
          May Allah Guide O my dear truth searcher.

      • Eugene Adkins 6:35 pm on October 23, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        You believe Jesus to be a prophet of God, correct? A prophet who taught God’s will; teachings that should be followed by you and by everyone else, correct?

        If your answers to those questions are “yes” then my friend, have you been baptized for the remission of your sins as Jesus taught followers of God to do? (Mark 16:16; John 1:29, John 10:7-18)

        If your answers to those questions are “yes” then my friend, do you teach others that they will be resurrected from the grave by the authority and voice of Jesus Christ to give an account of themselves as Jesus said they would? (John 5:26-29, John 11:25-27)

        If your answers to those questions are “yes” then my friend, do you teach others that Jesus rose from the dead on the third day after his crucifixion and that people are blessed by believing it even though they did not see it as Jesus said they would be? (John 20:26-31)

        If you have not done these, or you do not do these things then how can you say you believe that Jesus is a prophet of God? If you really believed that you would follow his teachings, and his teachings include the things that I referred to above. Jesus himself chose the twelve and his other prophets, and if one ignores their teaching they ignores Jesus’, and if one ignore’s Jesus they ignore God’s.

        If your answers to the questions asked above are “no” then you see our impasse, and why we teach that God’s truth is found in God’s Holy Bible; the only place where Jesus’ teachings are found.

        For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.” (John 5:21-23)

        Thanks for your time.

        • sammubani 6:15 am on October 24, 2014 Permalink

          May peace and blessing of Almighty God be upon you o my dear brother. In the name of Allah , the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.
          Thanks to Allah(God) I believe Jesus is son of Mary, Prophet of God. He was truthful, he didn’t lie. He addressed the messages of His Lord correctly to whom he was sent. He never claimed divinity. He was saying “..Worship my Lord and your Lord”
          I ask you o my dear brother how one can be both servant and master at the same time? How could Jesus be at the same time Lord and Messenger?
          You said he crucified and stayed in grave for 3 days. As you said Jesus is Lord who control the world day and night. If this Lord died, what would this world be? By whom it was controlled? Rethink o my brother with clean heart.
          Do you follow Christianity? I expect your short answer is ‘Yes’. You know Christian is a person who follows Jesus. Am I not right?
          The base of religion is believing in only one God Who has the following attributes
          ( 1 )   Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One,’
          (2) Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
          ( 3 )  He neither begets nor is born,
          (4) Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” Al Qur’an 112:1-4
          So if someone says “Jesus is my Lord” ,he is not following Jesus. Because Jesus didn’t order any one to worship him. Rather he was ordering to worship his Lord.

          “They have certainly disbelieved who say, ” Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary” while the Messiah has said, “O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord.” Indeed, he who associates others with Allah – Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.” Al-qur’an 5:72 (Al-maeda: 72)

          You know Jesus was eating, sleeping. do you think if the Controller of the world had slumbered for second, this world would have stood by itself? Human being is weak. Through sleeping and eating he regains his energy. So do you expect this weakness from Almighty God?

          “They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, “Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?” And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.”
          Al-qur’an 5:17 ( Al-maeda :17)

          Really do you believe from your heart one is equal to three; three is equal to one?
          “O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist – it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.”
          Al-qur’an 4:171(An-Nisa:171)

          If you are truth searcher surely your Lord help you. He Guides you to Straight path. “It is You we worship and You we ask for help. Guide us to the straight path -” Al-qur’an 1:5-6 (Al-Fatiha:5-6)
          May Allah guide you o my dear truth searcher.

        • Eugene Adkins 6:48 am on October 24, 2014 Permalink

          If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, him My Father will honor.” (John 12:26)

          So when He had washed their feet, taken His garments, and sat down again, He said to them, “Do you know what I have done to you? You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am.” (John 13:12-13)

        • sammubani 6:54 am on October 24, 2014 Permalink

          “So woe to those who write the “scripture” with their own hands, then say, “This is from Allah ,” in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.
          And they say, “Never will the Fire touch us, except for a few days.” Say, “Have you taken a covenant with Allah ? For Allah will never break His covenant. Or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?”
          Yes, whoever earns evil and his sin has encompassed him – those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally.”
          Al Qur’an Al-Baqara :79-81 (2:79-81)

        • Eugene Adkins 7:09 am on October 24, 2014 Permalink

          And now you see that the point that has been made. You say you believe Jesus was a prophet but you don’t listen to any of his words. The world only knows about Jesus because of the New Testament, and that’s because the New Testament is place a person must go to learn about Jesus (John 14:6).

          But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning.” (John 15:26-27)

        • sammubani 7:16 am on October 24, 2014 Permalink

          “And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, “O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad.” But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, “This is obvious magic.”
          And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah untruth while he is being invited to Islam. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.
          They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.”
          Al-qur’an As-Saff: 6-8(61:6-8)
          Here “Ahmad” is another name of Prophet Muhammad

    • James 11:52 am on October 18, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      My friend we are talking about what the Qu’ran says about Jesus. It proclaims him to be a mortal man and also proclaims that he was a true prophet. The Qu’ran also teaches that a true prophet speaks truth. There is a conflict here. The Qu’ran teaches one does not need Jesus, only Muhammed and Allah. Jesus says no one comes to the Father, but through him, John 14:6. He also says that those who saw Him had seen the Father (John 14:9) and that He and the Father were One – John 10:30. I am sorry friend, but each of us must chose either Jesus and God (His Father) or Muhammad and Allah. It is impossible for both to be correct.

      The Qu’ran says Jesus is a prophet and a prophet doesn’t lie, but says Allah has no son. Jesus said He is the Son of God – John 10:31-38. If He is a prophet and doesn’t lie then He is the Son of God. If He lied then the Muhammed and Allah were lying to call him a prophet.

    • sammubani 5:28 am on October 25, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      “And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah .” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
      Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.”
      Al Qur’an 4:157-158

      Dear brother where does Qur’an say ‘Jesus died’ you may be confused with past tense and future tense it says “Jesus will die”

      “[Jesus] said, “Indeed, I am the servant of Allah . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet.
      And He has made me blessed wherever I am and has enjoined upon me prayer and zakah as long as I remain alive.
      And [made me] dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me a wretched tyrant.
      And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive.”
      That is Jesus, the son of Mary – the word of truth about which they are in dispute.
      It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, “Be,” and it is.

      [Jesus said], “And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”
      Then the factions differed [concerning Jesus] from among them, so woe to those who disbelieved – from the scene of a tremendous Day.”

      Al Qur’an surah Maryam:30-37 (19:30-37)

    • sammubani 6:00 am on October 25, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], “We make no distinction between any of His messengers.” And they say, “We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination.” Al Baqara: 285 (2:285)

  • Ron Thomas 10:00 am on October 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    The Resurrection and the Thief on the Cross 

    There are many in the denominational world who quickly go to the “thief on the cross” to negate what the Lord said with regard to the importance/necessity of baptism in water for salvation. That we might have in front of us what the Scripture teaches, note what Peter said: “Baptism, the counterpart of that, saves you to-day (not the mere washing of dirt from the flesh but the prayer for a clean conscience before God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ” (1 Peter 3:21, Moffat’s Translation).

    We see the godly importance of water baptism. Many deny this, however. What is normally asserted by those with a taught disposition against the Lord’s command is that baptism (in water) is a “figure” (KJV), and not really actual. In other words, baptism for salvation is figurative, not actual. To support this assertion, the remark will be made concerning the thief on the cross: “He was not baptized, but asked the Lord to remember him when he went into paradise. That means that one does not have to be baptized in order to be saved.” (cf. Luke 23:39-43)

    This is, sadly, a mistaken way of thinking. The Lord said that baptism saved, and shall we listen to anyone who speaks contrary to this? Some do, and they feel justified with that which they have been taught regarding the thief on the cross.

    Consider what Paul said about salvation, and how this applies to the thief. “…because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9, NET). There are two things required by Paul in this passage. First, one must confess that Jesus is Lord; that is, acknowledge His “Lordship” over one’s personal life. Second, one must believe in the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. Looking at Luke 23:42, one might easily agree that the thief on the cross did confess Christ, but what about the second requirement the Holy Spirit puts forth for salvation? Could the thief have believed that? Hardly!

    What this goes to point out is that the thief on the cross was not amenable (accountable) to what the New Testament teaches for salvation.

     
    • Randal 6:29 pm on October 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent, Ron.

      • Ron Thomas 6:36 pm on October 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        You are very kind, Randal. Your words are very meaningful.

        On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:29 PM, The Fellowship Room wrote:

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    • Richard Mansel 8:07 pm on October 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      This is great work, Ron. But diligent students usually produce quality fruit.

      • Ron Thomas 8:13 pm on October 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Appreciate your encouragement, Richard. Thank you

        On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:07 PM, The Fellowship Room wrote:

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    • Lance Mosher 8:49 pm on October 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you, Ron. This was well put. Also consider how 1 Peter 3:21 says baptism is an appeal “by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” The thief could not have made this appeal, just as he was unable to confess and believe it. Similarly, Paul says that rising out of the grave of baptism is “as Christ was raised from the dead” (Romans 6:1-7). The thief could not have been saved in this same manner.
      When people asked Jesus about eternal life before the Cross, He referred them to the Law (Matthew 19:16ff). After the resurrection, He pointed to belief and baptism (Mark 16:16). Hebrews 8:6-13; 9:15-17.
      Keep serving Him!

    • Gary Knuckles 8:49 pm on October 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      A very good point to make! Good job, Ron.

    • Janice Horne 10:08 pm on October 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent! Thanks for this concise explanation. The religious world is mistaken about a number of points of doctrine because they do not rightly divide the word of truth. Knowledge and understanding result in wisdom. Keep up the good work!

    • sandirog 11:43 pm on October 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Very good post. Thank you. :-)

      • Ron Thomas 12:54 pm on October 3, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you. I would identify you by name, but I am afraid to. Is it Sandi, Sandy, or sandirog?

    • Allen Dutton 9:49 am on October 3, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you Ron for your article. We encounter the same arguments here in Brazil. Jesus was still alive when He said those words to thief on the cross. The Old Law was still the law. No baptism for salvation under the Old Law. We live under the New Law where baptism for salvation is the law. Compare 1 Peter 3. 21 with Acts 2. 38 for example. God bless you.

    • Effiong, Y.E 4:15 pm on October 3, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I love it when we talk about the Baptism as one of the tools to salvation.God bless you immensely

    • Weylan Deaver 11:03 am on October 4, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Good point!

    • Jim Key 8:03 am on October 6, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Brother Marshal Keeble, one of the brilliant preachers of my parents generation said that in denying baptism one in effect changes the very words of Jesus in Mark 16:16 from: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved…” to “he that believeth and is NOT baptized shall be saved.”

      Interesting word, “NOT.”

      Satan made very effective use of the exact same tactic in Gen 3:4. (From NRSV) Gen 3:3 Eve’s statement: “but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden, nor shall you touch it, or you shall die.'”

      Satan’s reply in Gen 3:4: “But the serpent said to the woman, “You will NOT die…”

      Ron’s thoughts lead directly into Paul’s discussion in Romans 6.

      Rom 6:3-4
      Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?

      At the time of the thief’s confession, could he have been baptized into the death of Jesus before Jesus died?

      Rom 6:4
      Therefore we have been buried with him by baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.

      At the time of the thief’s confession could he have been buried with Christ by baptism before Jesus had been buried?

      Could the thief have been raised to walk in newness of life before Christ has been raised from the dead by the glory of the Father?

      A question to the individual who denies (opposes) baptism.

      If they were there 2000 years ago on the day of Pentecost preaching to the crowd and hundreds of voices cried out, “…what shall we do?” How would those that deny baptism have answered?

      Peter said: “Repent Ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and Ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”

      The denier? ” ‘Repent Ye, and [fill in in the blank: call on the name of Jesus, confess Jesus as the Son of God, let Him into your heart, …]; and Ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”

      Suppose you had been one of those individuals in the crowd that day that heard Peter’s message, how would you have responded?

      The record in God’s Word: “They then that received his word were baptized: and there were added (unto them) in that day about three thousand souls.” (Acts 2:4)

      The baptism denier: “”They then that received his word [fill in the blank: prayed the sinners prayer, confessed the name of Christ, said, “no need to be baptized”, …]

      And finally for those that would claim the name of Christian remember the Biblical definition of “Christian” as given in Acts 11:26, “… the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.”

      Disciple = Christian and Christian = Disciple. A disciple does not argue theology with the Master. A disciple does not twists or deny the words of the Master. A disciple does not question the wisdom of the Master.

      There are many that wear the name Christian, but are not true disciples. They want Jesus to be their friend and savior but deny Him as their Lord and Master. Based on the definition in Acts 11:26, these are simply admirers or perhaps fans of Jesus, but certainly not disciples and therefore not Christians.

      Matt 7:21 – “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven. “

  • Eugene Adkins 6:40 am on May 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Something We’ll All Have in Common with Lazarus 

    What we will all have in common with Lazarus?

    It won’t be:

    • that we all lived in the town of Bethany
    • that we all had sisters named Mary and Martha
    • that we all got to spend personal time with Jesus while living upon the Earth
    • that we all experienced a sickness unto death
    • that we all were buried in a tomb converted cave

    It is (save the Lord’s return during our life):

    • that our bodies will come forth from the grave when Jesus calls our name! (John 5:28-29)

    Now when He had said these things, He cried with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come forth!” And he who had died came out bound hand and foot with graveclothes, and his face was wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Loose him, and let him go.”” (John 11:43-44)

     
  • TFRStaff 3:32 pm on September 26, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Was Lazarus sad or glad? 

    In John chapter eleven, the Bible gives us the historical account of Jesus raising His friend Lazarus from the dead. To this point in Jesus’ ministry, it was His most wonderful and undeniable miracle. Because of Christ’s mighty works, the plan for His execution was expedited (John 11:45-57). The chief priests even sought to kill Lazarus, since his resurrection at the hands of Jesus caused so many people to believe (John 12:9-11).

    But there is something else here to consider.

    What happened to Lazarus when he died? Did he go to paradise (Abraham’s bosom (Luke 16:22; 23:43)), or did he go to torments in Hades (Luke 16:23)?

    It could be speculated that he went to either of the two places. If he had been a faithful Jew, turned disciple of John the Baptist, now currently a disciple of Jesus — as most information leads one to believe, it is assumed he would have gone to paradise. On the other hand, if he had been simply listening to Jesus as a friend, and had not yet committed himself to the commands of God under the Mosaic system, it is possible, God knowing his heart, that he would have been sent to torments.

    For a minute, consider the ramifications for Lazarus concerning his earthly resurrection:

    1. We have heard for years about “near-death experiences.” Nothing can be factually documented about the claims of these cases. But the facts surrounding Lazarus are quite different. He would have certainly learned something about the afterlife when he died.

    In Luke 16, Jesus taught that when the other Lazarus (the beggar) died, angels were waiting and accompanied his soul to Abraham’s bosom. So immediately upon death, Lazarus of Bethany would have gone somewhere. Since his earthly remains had been in the tomb four days (John 11:17), he would have seen some things that others have not seen.

    2. It may be that Lazarus could tell Jesus what to expect. Six days before the Passover, Jesus sat at the table with the risen Lazarus and talked (John 12:2).

    We know not of the content of that conversation. Could it be possible that Lazarus shared his experience with Jesus? Was he sad to be back here on earth because he had been in paradise, or was he glad to have a second chance to get his life right? Did he have comforting words for his friend, Jesus, concerning the place where Jesus had told His disciples He was about to go? Did he have discouraging words for his unfaithful and disobedient acquaintances about the horrors of death for those who know not God? (More …)

     
  • Eugene Adkins 6:53 am on September 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Facing Mortality 

    We face our mortality every time we look in the mirror.

    A body made of dirt. A soul made by the hands of God. It’s easy to confuse the two; at least it’s easier to see one before the other.

    We can eat right, exercise, wear sunscreen, stretch in the morning, brush our teeth everyday and even floss and the results eventually lead to the same inevitable conclusion.

    But was this body ever made to always last?

    I think I remember reading something about two trees in the garden. One was for knowledge of opposing mindsets and the other for something called life (Genesis 2:9). Even in a sinless state the body still needed something “extra” to keep the dirt from breaking down.

    There can be great pain when we face our mortality. But does there always have to be?

    In the face of mortality we can look for and see the face of immortality.

    In the face of mortality we can look for and see the face of the one who not only faced his fleshly mortality, he stared it down and he conquered it!

    Young, old, male, female, rich, poor, educated, ignorant, red, yellow, black or white – we all face the same thing everyday and one day we will all see the same one who sees us.

    But will our mortality be ready for the immortality to come?

    in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” “O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?” The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.” (1 Corinthians 15:52-58)

     
  • J. Randal Matheny 6:18 am on March 31, 2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 1Thessalonians, , , resurrection   

    Now that’s encouraging! 

    Using a passage from our previous week’s Bible readings, 1Th 5.4-11, today’s sermon will deal with the resurrection still to come. We’ll focus on these points from verse 10:

    1. “Christ died for us.” His death had a purpose and brought purpose to us. Through him we escape wrath and come to salvation (v. 9). Seeing this purpose fulfilled in our lives requires alertness and sobriety (vv. 6-8).
    2. Whether we live or die, “alert or asleep,” that purpose will be fulfilled in those who are faithful. This touches on the problem the Thessalonians felt about those who were passing away. Paul guarantees that faithfulness to Christ is worth it. To die now is to pass to the head of the line.
    3. The purpose of Christ’s death is so that we can “come to life together with him”. To live with Christ, to have the life of God, to be in his presence forever, this is the precious gift of the Cross, restoring the reason for Creation and bringing man full circle back to the fellowship of Eden.

    A death now in Christ does not miss this gift, but the Lord’s return will unite us all to him.

    Now that’s encouraging! (v. 11).

    When Paul preached righteousness, self-control, and the coming judgment to Felix, the governor became afraid and sent Paul away (Acts 24.25). That is a terrifying trio of topics for us who work contrary to God’s will, act by the impulse of our carnal desires, and face the wrath of God towards everything that destroys communion with him. Christ died to make us right before God, give us the Spirit’s power to produce spiritual fruit, and allow us pray “Maranatha, come, Lord” because our dread has been turned into hope.

     
    • Dan 7:32 am on March 31, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Now that is encouraging! I saved this for more study in the near future. Thanks for sharing it. Dan

  • Eugene Adkins 9:55 pm on October 4, 2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , , Questions and Doubts, resurrection, The Wicked and the Righteous, Universal Justice   

    Will There Be Universal Justice? 

    Many in the world struggle with the existence of evil, the abuse of the innocent and a lack of justice across multiple spectrums of life. The struggle can be so intense that it leads many to disregard any acknowledgement of the existence of a Higher Being. Even Christians can fail at times to keep our eyes focused upon the crown to be given after the race is over.

    I believe the late brother Burton Coffman used some wise words concerning these issues. It’s a little lengthy for posts here, but I believe the read is worth the time:

    “Great and terrible as the concept of eternal judgment admittedly is, the most profound necessity for it is evident. Most of the truly difficult problems connected with the life of faith, and with reference to the entire system of Christianity, are directly related to the doctrine of eternal judgment. Heaven, hell, eternal punishment, eternal joy, Satan, and the problem of evil – all these things pivot in the last analysis upon the scriptural teaching of the judgment. All of the problems, great and small, eventually fade into insignificance before the pressing question, “Is this universe just?” The underlying assumption of revealed religion as set forth in both the Old Testament and the New Testament is the concept of a just universe; and time and time again it is unequivocably declared to be just (Psalms 45:6,7). The father of the faithful, Abraham, idiomatically inferred it when he asked, “Shall not the judge of all the earth do right?” (Genesis 18:25). The existence of laws in the natural realm, the moral law within people, and the sacred revelation all alike proclaim the justice of the universe; and if it is not so, life indeed becomes “a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing” (Macbeth, Act V). Sanity in any true sense turns upon the question of justice in the cosmos. If the righteousness and justice of God do indeed establish his throne and undergird all things, then WE ARE SAFE; and every man shall receive the reward of the deeds done in the body (2 Corinthians 5:10); if not, then any true security of the soul is a fool’s dream, and man himself is but an infant crying in the night with no language but a cry!

    But if the universe is just; if the righteous shall be rewarded and the wicked punished, AN ETERNAL JUDGMENT IS REQUIRED, a judgment in which all inequities and injustices shall be corrected, an eternal judgment presided over by infinite justice, wisdom, mercy, and love – in short, the judgment revealed upon every page of the sacred scriptures, or if not revealed, then certainly implied. The widespread neglect and apparent disbelief of this doctrine suggests that it is true of our generation, as it was of those to whom this epistle was first addressed, that we “have need again that someone teach us the rudiments of the first principles of the oracles of God” (Hebrews 5:12)” (James Burton Coffman Commentaries, Volume X, Hebrews 6:1-2; p.116; A.C.U. Press, 1971)

    One part of scripture that I try to remember when my heart and mind ponders these issues is Psalm 73. While struggling over the existence of the wicked and their bounding prosperity over the righteous, the psalmist reminds himself and all of his readers about an extremely important point. He says in verses 16,17 – “When I thought how to understand this, It was too painful for me — Until I went into the sanctuary of God; Then I understood their end.”

    Although at times it’s hard to see and comprehend in this life, God’s word assures His people there will be universal justice one day; and this day will not have anything to do with any man-made court (Daniel 12:2, John 5:28-29).

     
  • TFRStaff 9:23 am on September 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Visiting his own grave plot 

    Gary Knuckles made this comment about preacher Ben F. Taylor (b. 1878), who died on this day in 1987.

    … brother Taylor often would visit the plot where he would be buried. I don’t remember if I heard him mention this in a sermon or if someone related it to me, but he said he wanted to view the landscape before he died so he could see what would be before him in the resurrection of the last great day!

     
  • Eugene Adkins 10:06 am on April 6, 2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Just Wondering… 

    Not that a person has to or anything, but I was wondering if you have ever seen anybody wear an empty tomb around their neck before?

    And we declare to you glad tidings—that promise which was made to the fathers. God has fulfilled this for us their children, in that He has raised up Jesus. As it is also written in the second Psalm: ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.’And that He raised Him from the dead, no more to return to corruption, He has spoken thus: ‘I will give you the sure mercies of David.’Therefore He also says in another Psalm: ‘You will not allow Your Holy One to see corruption.’” (Acts 13:32-35, NKJV)

     
  • John Henson 11:06 am on October 19, 2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Here’s More Than Hope 

    In John 11:25, Jesus made a simple, yet profound statement.

    “I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live.”

    There is so much more than just hope in that statement. There is certitude. Wouldn’t have Job loved to hear that? Job said, “If a man die, shall he live again?” (Job 14:14a). All poor Job could do was hope, yet we have been given a “more sure word of prophecy,” (2 Peter 1:19).

    Take the more sure word of prophecy from Jesus in the New Testament and remember: Jesus is the resurrection and the life. If you have obeyed him, then he is keeping your life hid in God (Colossians 3:3-4). You’re ready.

    If not, then obey the gospel and get ready.

     
  • Ed Boggess 9:42 am on March 21, 2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Resurrection body – JAM 

    I have been thinking about our resurrection body lately. I read N. T. Wright’s “Surprised by Hope” and it caused me to review the subject again. John writes that when Jesus come, we will see Him as He is and we will be like Him. I believe this is in regard to the kind of body we will have in eternity. It was pre-revealed on the Mount of Transfiguration. Whereas before the incarnation, Jesus was Spirit without body – “God is Spirit”. But “inasmuch as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same”. When Jesus was raised, the grave clothes were left behind. The body had been transformed and there was no further need not use for earthy clothing. We find the same thing happened when Elijah was caught up in the whirlwind. He left his clothes behind! (2 Kings 2:13). From this I conclude that his body was transformed as it was taken by the fire-horse driven chariot. When Stephen looked into heaven, he saw Jesus standing beside the glory of God. As for God, Stephen saw glory; as for Jesus, Stephen recognized Jesus. He recognized Jesus because His resurrected body was recognizable, as it had been before His ascension. Perhaps I am overstepping, but I do not believe so. Jesus has a body, the same body that was on earth but glorified and transformed, and that body is a model of what ours will be (1Jn 3:2). So here are a few thoughts offered to provoke more thought.

     
  • Ed Boggess 9:29 am on March 9, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: intermediate, , N. T. Wright, resurrection   

    2 Cor 5:1-8 ~ Resurrection or Intermediate? – JAM 

    The question for your consideration is: Does 2 Corinthians 5:1-8 describe the coming resurrection of the body or an intermediate state between death and the 2nd Coming and resurrection? My Nelson NKJV has “Assurance of the Resurrection” above this section of verses. This is typical of Bibles with topical headings added. JFB, the Bible Knowledge Commentary, the Evangelical Commentary, and others interpret these verses as resurrection. Even N. T. Wright, noted English theologian, gives it this meaning. However, I believe the primary focus of these verses (as does F. F. Bruce, New Century Commentary and others) is the state of saints between death and the 2nd coming. Leading into this section, Paul was talking about the “outward man perishing”. What happens if the outward man perishes, if our “earthly house, this tent, is destroyed?” We have “a building from God a house not made with hands.” One is destroyed, another is provided. The one is not the other; whereas, in the resurrection Paul emphasized the continuity of the body (“it is sown . . ., it is raised . . .” – the same one sown is the same one raised). While we are in this body, “we grown” (twice: v 2 & 4). Why? We put up with its limitations, looking forward to what God has in store for us (whether resurrection or intermediate). Paul raises the proposition of a “naked” bodiless spirit. Since such a possibility is impossible in life and in the resurrection, he must be speaking of the intermediate. But even then, God will provide clothes. Greatly preferred is the resurrection, “mortality . . . swallowed up by life”. We have the Spirit as a guarantee that God will provide eternal life. Thus, while in the body, we are absent from Jesus’ actual presence. But if we are absent from the body (this certainly mitigates against resurrection), we are in the direct presence of our Lord! I hope something here will provoke thought, consideration and study.

     
  • Mike Riley 8:12 pm on November 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Caving In Under Pressure 

    The incident I’m thinking about is found in John 11:41-48 regarding the religious leaders’ (chief priests & Pharisees) response after Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead. When they heard the news of his resurrection, they instigated a plot to kill Jesus (John 11:49-53).

    They caved in under the pressure of praise and popularity, being afraid of loosing their position of power and wealth within the Roman government.

    They loved the praise of men more than the praise of God (John 12:42-43).

    Men have not changed this manner of thinking in the 21st Century. Most still love the praise of men more than the praise of God.

    This is a dangerous state to be found in (Acts 12:20-23).

     
  • Richard Mansel 7:04 am on September 1, 2010 Permalink | Reply
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    The Resurrection is Easier to Believe 

    Barry Newton provides some excellent food for thought this morning on the believability of the Resurrection of Christ.

     
  • jimnewy 1:29 pm on April 4, 2010 Permalink | Reply
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    A Holy Celebration 

    Today as on every first day of the week we celebrate in remembrance the death, burial and resurrection of Christ our Savior as in Act 20:7. We partake of the bread as the pure and righteous body that suffered and died for us; drink the blood shed for the remission of our sins. Praise His Holy name.

    I posted this on FB this morning. Some have copied and pasted on their home page. Feel free to do the same or simular to keep the truth moving forwards.

     
  • Richard Hill 12:17 pm on April 4, 2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Communion 

    He’s alive! Praise God! Today we will celebrate the events that occurred on Friday-Sunday about 2000 years ago. Of course we will celebrate it again next Sunday and the Sunday after that and the Sunday after that. Acts 20:7

     
    • jimnewy 1:31 pm on April 4, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      We are in communion with one another

    • B.Esudas 4:42 pm on April 4, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Amen. We do the same for several years on every Sunday we continue the same on every Sunday.

  • Mike Riley 6:45 pm on December 17, 2009 Permalink | Reply
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    My best thought about Christ is what the apostle Paul stated in 1 Corinthians 15:19-22:

    “If in this life only we have hoped in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied. But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.”

    Thank God that our Lord is a risen Lord! And as He was resurrected, we too can look forward to our resurrection as well (Romans 8:11) to be forever with the Lord (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18).

     
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